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Your Opinion: If a male student under age 18 has consensual sex with a female school teacher, is he the "Victim" of a crime?

No
39% (409 votes)
Yes
30% (322 votes)
No. It's ridiculous to say the guy is a "Victim"
19% (198 votes)
Yes, but not as serious as for female victims.
6% (61 votes)
I'm not sure.
7% (69 votes)
Total votes: 1059
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wtf
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 08/24/2008 - 19:47.

thats so stupid,
its up to him.
if he wants to have sex with a teacher then he can go ahead and have sex with a teacher!

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Age difference...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 08/21/2008 - 16:55.

Looking at the law... This IS illegal. The question; however, is not directed towards the law, but personal opinions of right and wrong.

In my opinion there are a number of other factors that are not mentioned in the question. The first, and really the only "real" detail left out is the age difference.

When I was in highschool, I had a 23 year old teacher. Is it really that bad for a 23 year old to sleep with a 17 year old? A 4 year or less age difference? ANd yet I have a friend who is 23 dating a 40 year old and no one even raises an eyebrow.

There are other factors involved obviously... such as maturity, past experiences, emotions, ect ect. I for instance was paying my mothers RENT at 15. I now have a friend who is 22 and still lives with his mother and has never had a job or a lisence. This is why Parental consent MUST play a part in these laws.

However... in the end... It is a teacher. And that makes it a crime in much the same way a boss shouldn't sleep with his secretary. There is (even if unspoken) a threat to ones grdes and percieved future. The question is always there in these situations... "what if I say no?"

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Age is such a bummer. Sure,
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 16:33.

Age is such a bummer. Sure, it says nothing of love. It asks if the kid is a "victim" due to the sexual act. Obviously not. He CONSENTED to the sex. Even if their was no love and he was just a horny kid, their is no victim and thus there should be no punishment.

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Age is a bummer?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 08/04/2008 - 01:52.

Just because she's a woman, doesn't mean she's not a child molester! A child CANNOT CONSENT to sex! That is why it is against the law. You obviously don't have sons.

I pity the teacher that tries to sleep with my sons. I think I'd want 10 minutes alone with her before I called the police!

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read the question carefully
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 06/21/2008 - 19:45.

If a male student under age 18 has consensual sex with a female school teacher, is he the "Victim" of a crime?

it says nothing of love, the situation is not explained, the question gives no details at all so how can you make an informed desion on who is the "victim". All it says is he consentuated to to sex but is he the one who initiated it or is she? We dont know, each and every situation is different and each and every situation you will have a new opinion. If they formed a mutual relationship then no i dont think age should matter. If she initiated the situation and he went along with it then yes she should be held responsible because as said before teenage boys take what is offered to them and as an older woman she should know that, in my opinion he would be the victim. If he initiated the situation and she acceppted then neither should be at fault because again as an older woman she should be able to restrain herself, and you cant be the victim if you initiate it. Every scenerio is different and there could be more than the three i just commented on. Things like statatory rape should not be considered opon by age or years between they should be considered on by each individual situation.

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victim
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 06/29/2008 - 14:18.

I believe that if the guy under 18 is wanting the older woman then all should be good. Kids like to have that under there belt especially guys, having a older woman... So if both parties are having sexual relations then leave them alone, damn they ain't hurtin no one...

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Reply to: read the question carefully
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 13:02.

I think that's exactly the point of the question and why so many people just don't get it.

Under the law, "reasons" shouldn't and don't matter. It's all about age and the differences in ages and whether it's legal or morally responsible for an adult teacher mid 20's and up to be engaging in sexual activities with minor kids under the age of 18. "Who" initiates the sex act or whether it's because they were 'in love' doesn't matter either. It's wrong any way you look at it. If you had a 14 or 15 year old in school and found out a teacher was having sex with him, most parents would take issue with this. Perhaps you think it would be ok as long as they were 'in love'? Very doubtful! More likely, you'd want to throttle the teacher and see them in court.

It is the contention of many that a "Teacher" who is in a position of responsibility around children and has power and influence over teens with raging hormones, should be held to a higher standard under the law. It should never be the place of any educator who is responsible for teaching our minor children in a classroom, to become sexually involved with a child "BOY or GIRL". It can damage a kid for life and has, for many. Just because it's a boy, doesn't mean it's OK.

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What happened to reason?
Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Sun, 05/25/2008 - 10:57.

Age of consent should be just that. If the person is above the age of consent it should not matter who they have sex with. If the age of consent is 16 I see no difference with them having sex with someone who is 17 years, 11 months, 28 days; and someone who is 18 years and 1 day. I think that the problem is with parents that try to have the legal system put restraints on their children instead of raising children that have self restraint. And to those who think I have never raised children, I have 6, all doing well. When did we as a society completely abdicate personal responsibility? And as my last point, why do so many people think that there is such a difference between males & females? Are we raising our daughters in such a manner that they are less able to make wise decisions? We claim to want our sons and daughters to be treated equally but our comments and actions indicate that we really don't believe that they are equal.

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Well said
Submitted by administrator on Tue, 05/27/2008 - 07:17.

Well said. I couldn't agree more!

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Not the victim, per se...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 19:32.

I wouldn't say the male is the victim in this case. If he consents, he's the one committing the crime, not having the crime committed upon him. Or if he is having it committed upon him, he's bringing it upon himself.

Just because I don't say he's a victim doesn't mean it has no negative effect... it most likely will affect him negatively. But if he's consenting, he's not the victim. He's the criminal.

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This poll is an eye opener
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 18:55.

It's amazing to me that your poll shows more people think it's not a crime than do. These people must not have kids and must have absolutely no character what-so-ever. There is no way that it will ever be acceptable for any school teacher to have sex with any child. Not in my book. I don't care if it's a boy or a girl. These are kids, our kids, deserve better than that. Teachers have no right to take a parents trust for granted and certainly have no right taking our childrens trust or their virginity. Somehwere along the way, people have completely lost there self respect, self control, and they are dead when it comes to actually believing in something decent if they think this is OK. Sick man.... really sick.

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Rape is Rape
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 23:48.

The laws should be the same for both male or female, i see most men going to prison life for rape, for a man having sex with a girl under the age of 18 years old, but then i see only a few women even getting arrested for it we all know there's about as many women out there having sex with boys under the age of 18 but it seem's there's not much being done about it,unless its a school teacher where it will make a good news headline, and like that one teacher was having sex with that one boy that was only 13 years old, hell if that would have been a man having sex with a 13 year old girl they would have tryed to give him a life sentences for ever time he had sex with her, and hell they only gave that teacher a few years in prison and then she got out early and went right back and started having sex with him again and got pregnant by him again,, whats the damn deal here, the women always saying they want equal rights, hell they have much better rights than a man does already, the law and courts do not treat women the same as they do man, i throught the law was soppose to be fair to ever person, but look at the sentences women get for the same crimes as men, a man gets life for rape, a woman only gets a few years for the same crime, for murder a man gets death or life w/o and a woman only gets a few years, like a man kills his wife he get life or death, but a woman gets up there and cry's about how bad he treated her and beat on her, and only gets 3 r 4 years most times, so what happen to equal rights.. Rape is Rape, and Murder is Murder so why is it most women are getting away with it all....

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Not Surprising
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 15:41.

It doesn't surpise me that some people dont think guys could be victims. I'm a guy. I'd never admit to being vicimized by a woman. From the male perspective, what kind of wimp would that make me? I'd probably be labeled some kind of a freak.

But, there is something really twisted and wrong with these female teachers nailing kids.

Guys in highschool are like walking sex donors. We will "donate" to just about any cause. It's just what we do. We think about sex and want sex all day every day 99% of our awake hours. The teen years are actually where we learn about control. The majority of us learn to control our sex drive during these years. We have to.

Girls are different. Girls actually wrap feelings and emotions around sex. It's like it becomes part of their identity. Guys NOT so much. it's just about the sex. We want sex. Bang it and we're good.

A guy in his teens can get messed up in the head pretty bad from one of these teachers. I know this for a fact. I watched it happen years ago to a friend of mine in highschool. He was the coolest guy in school and had a relationship with one of the hottest teachers. That relationship really screwed with him bad and in one way or another it's messed him up his entire life. Do you think he would admit it though? Hell no!

Telling a highschool kid (guy) to say "No" to the seductions of a hot teacher is a joke. Of course they will say YES! That's exactly the point. If it's there first time, this is a person they would naturally trust. Guys are vulnerable. Guys can be victimized by woman. I really doubt that many would admit it though and it's too bad because if they are screwed up in there teens, it means they probably won't ever get help.

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Definitely they are victims
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 09:56.

The last thing we need are female teachers acting on sexual impulses with our male children in the most vulnerable point of their lives. Probably sounds old fashioned to most, but if you want to raise a "Man" with healthy perceptions of women and relationships, this type of teacher will destroy any chance he has. If a female teacher has no more self control than that and does not value ethics or integrity in a class room full of kids with raging hormones, then she should NOT have picked the teaching profession.

In terms of the "love relationship" excuse? Where is the "equality" in this type of relationship? A 25-30 year old female who is through highschool, through college, has a degree, traveled, lived life, could have any pick of any number of guys (in an equal age group) for a relationship, but she wants sex with a 15 year old? Please give me a f---ing break. She's a pedophile and a criminal.

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Whatever happened to
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 12:46.

Whatever happened to love?
If they love each other and their parents know about it and are fine with it, why couldn't that be enough?
What if she is much, much more mature than other people her age and he is much more immature than the people his age.
There are somethings that just can't be put in words and that the law just cannot define.
There should be extenuating circumstances for every statutory rape case.
For those who beleive in fate and true love and soul mates, how can a girl help if it her true love is much older than her, or her former teacher?

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speech
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 21:00.

Age of Consent the Number With Too Many Numbers

America is the land of freedom. In its bill of rights it includes the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech, of press, but this bill does not however include the right to choose to whom you fall in love. The sex laws forbidding adults to be with someone underage is a violation of human rights. The logic behind these laws is faulty, arbitrary, and dogmatic. And as I present this speech to you, you will see how seriously flawed the system is.
Minors, citizens under 18, are delinquents under the government. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a federal law that includes keeping your child away from school, committing a crime in the presence of a child, providing alcohol or drugs. Contributing to the sexual delinquency of a minor is when an adult has sexual relations with a minor under the age of consent. Even an adult, who respects a minor’s virginity, kiss to the lips qualifies in a 10-year record as a sex offender and imprisonment.
Is this Justice?
Under the law in California minors are too much of delinquents to consent to sex. Rape is when one person forces sex on another person without consent. Statutory rape is characterized as non-forced sexual intercourse with a person who is younger than the statutory age of consent. A minor in California, someone under the age of 18, is incapable of consenting to sex.
The actual ages of these laws very greatly from state-to-state as well as the punishment for offenders. In California small cases result in a year imprisonment in county jail. Someone 21 years or older having sexual intercourse with a minor may result up to 4 years in county jail. Many states depending on the severity of how young the minor is may result in prison for life and some the death penalty. Each state has it’s own unique and complex laws on the matter. Maine for example, an adult who has sex with a minor below age 14 is sentenced 50 years in prison. If the minor is at least age 14 or 15, only one year in prison is served.
An offender missed the 14th birthday by a month in Maine, and his term is 49 years longer. Is there really a 49-year sentence difference between someone who is age 13 between someone who is age 14 based on maturity?
Is this justice?
The prison sentence in Arizona of an adult having sex with someone 14 is 20 years in prison, of someone 15 is only a year. Is there really a valid 19-year sentence difference between someone a year or less apart based on maturity?
Is this Justice?
It is Fourth-degree sexual assault if someone age 20 or older engages in sexual intercourse with someone under age 16 in the state of Arkansas and may result in only one year of prison. If somebody 20 years or older does the same crime in Missouri the sentence may be up to 15 years in prison.
Is this Justice?
The rate of maturity does not differ geographically. What varies are our own personnel beliefs, viewpoints, and paranoia. The sex laws are something that the United States are incredibly not united on. Something as subjective as the age of consent cannot possibly be agreed upon. There is no magical number where everyone matures at the same time, nor will there ever be.
The age of consent differs greatly around the world. In some countries such as Spain, Nigeria, and South Korea the age of consent is at 13 years of age, a number where some states in the U.S will send a man to prison up to 40 years, and over there it is understood as normal. Only one country exceeds 18 years of age, and that is the country Tunisia. The average age of consent around the world is 16 years of age.
There is no way for a court to decipher how mature an individual minor is, therefore any number set as an age of consent is arbitrary, lacks valid reasoning, and is biased based on opinions not understanding.
It is illegal for minors to have sex with other minors in the united states, though no one seriously taboos it, despises it, and it is common among our society, it is even humorous among our media, and the punishment is usually very minimal. Most teenagers do not acknowledge that their sexual activity is illegal.
An adult having sex with someone under age is forever shunned among our society is looked down upon as mentally sick, and is given the stigmatic title of a pedophile.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. It’s important to point out that the children affected by pedophilia are prepubescent boys and girls (13 years old or younger). When teenagers are involved, the proper term is ephebophilia.
Adults attracted to teenagers who are emotionally and physically developed should not be deemed the more common term pedophile when they despite whatever the age gap is feel that they are compatible. It is unrealistic for the law to not acknowledge the sexual appetite of teenagers in today’s world.
The original purpose of the law is to protect the virginity of young girls. If the girl has already lost her virginity then the law serves no purpose. The law is based on double standard principles and that into today’s world no longer should apply. When a man looses his virginity, his bros have a celebration of high-fives, when a girl looses hers she is considered to some invaluable.
A poll on sexlaws.com was taken asking if a male student has sex with a male student under age 18 if he is the victim of the crime. The majority 40% said he is not the victim of the crime, 18% said the idea that he is the victim is ridiculous, 29% said yes, 6% said yes but not as serious as it is for females, and 7% are not sure. I’m sure most of the male students friends applauded him at his score, but were sorry to see their teacher fired and in jail.
When an adolescent male takes the virginity of another adolescent female he is being just a high school boy, and his hormones are enough to excuse him. When an adult has sex with an adolescent girl underage he is a predator, and is assumed to have manipulated her to do so.
Is this justice?
When a teenage girl has sex with multiple teenage boys she is considered a slut. When a teenage girl has a partner with someone responsible who is over 18 she is considered a victim.
Is this justice?
Two steady partners have been sexually active with each other since their junior year. The male turns 18 but continues with their activities. Someone finds out and he is sent to prison, and looses his college football scholarship.
Is this justice?
A minor has a ring on her finger. The adult wishes to marry her once she becomes of age, but authorities after finding out that they’re sexually active and send him to prison.
Is this justice?
Any mature emotional feelings a minor may have for an adult is an effect of manipulation. Under the law a minor’s love is deemed delusional. This is not justice.
As I’ve said before, there is no magical number that we all mature at the same time with. My solution to the predicament is for the age of consent to be determined by the parents’ permission. A minors parents are the strongest source to determine their maturity, not the country, not the state, not the courts, but the ones who have raised them to decide on when their ready. Though a minor should have the right to choose to whom they fall in love, a parent has a stronger right to their child’s sexual activity. This will create more flexibility in the system. A parent could decide on no contact, mild contact, or full sexual contact based on the child’s maturity and the family’s personnel beliefs.
This will create justice.
Work Cited

“Worldwide age of consent” Avert Online 6 September 2008 http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

“Statutory Rape” Sex Laws Online
http://www.sexlaws.org/what_is_statutory_rape1

“Poll” Sex Laws Online
http://www.sexlaws.org/male_student_female_teacher_is_it_criminal_sex_abuse

“Pedophilia” Sex Laws Online
http://www.sexlaws.org/what_is_pedophilia

“Age of Consent” Sex Laws Online
http://www.sexlaws.org/age_of_consent

“Contributing to the delinquency of a minor”
http://law.jrank.org/pages/5703/Contributing-Delinquency-Minor.html

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Your Speech
Submitted by Jerry (not verified) on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 01:55.

I believe you really jumped the shark. In other words - you really did an overkill on the subject. A short paragraph is plenty. Your "speech" was just TOO MUCH for me to swallow!

I am a 55 year old male. When I was in high school, I had a hot looking female teacher, in her early twenties, who sat on her desk in a short skirt and didn't make any effort to keep her legs together. If she would have made it obvious that she wanted to have sex with me, I wouldn't have wasted any time in accommodating her. I was a normal teenager with raging hormones.

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